John Denham, the so-called communities minister, has condemned rightwing extremists for the violent clashes between police and, err, muslim youths and their pals in the 'anti'-fascist movement, even though there's not one rightwing extremist in sight.
According to the BBC:
'Mr Denham said such right-wing protesters were trying to provoke an "overreaction" from the Asian community. "Then people blame the people who overreact and the situation gets out of control," he said.'
It's clear where Mr Denham's sympathies lie, not with the law-abiding public or the police, caught in the middle, or even with the liberal traditionalist who believes that everyone has a right to express their view, even if it is offensive to some.
Why shouldn't we blame the 'people who overreact', i.e. the ones who were looking for violence with their political opponents, and failing that, the police? Are they not responsible for their own actions?
As for the 'anti-fascists', I'm guessing the irony of their reliance on fascistic tactics of violent intimidation escapes them.
According to the BBC:
'Mr Denham said such right-wing protesters were trying to provoke an "overreaction" from the Asian community. "Then people blame the people who overreact and the situation gets out of control," he said.'
It's clear where Mr Denham's sympathies lie, not with the law-abiding public or the police, caught in the middle, or even with the liberal traditionalist who believes that everyone has a right to express their view, even if it is offensive to some.
Why shouldn't we blame the 'people who overreact', i.e. the ones who were looking for violence with their political opponents, and failing that, the police? Are they not responsible for their own actions?
As for the 'anti-fascists', I'm guessing the irony of their reliance on fascistic tactics of violent intimidation escapes them.
6 comments:
So much obfuscation going on, one would be forgiven for thinking there was a clash of civilizations here.
I don't think it's a clash of civilisations, any more than the recent punch-up between Millwall and West Ham fans.
The 'anti'-fascists come from the same civilisation as the other side.
surely, if you think that 9/11 was an inside job and everything that followed were stratagems of the NWO, you might have some sympathy for the put-upon Muslims, heh?
obviously not...
Now, if the English Defense League had the right to bear arms, the whole problem would be sorted..
"if you think that 9/11 was an inside job and everything that followed were stratagems of the NWO"
Well, you know that I believe 9/11 was a false flag terror attack, like those run by Operation Gladio. It's the most plausible explanation, given the presence of explosives in the buildings, etc. Who do you think put the explosives in the buildings? Oh sorry, you don't consider evidence that might contradict your opinion.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'everything that followed', but if it was, as I believe it to be, an employment of the 'strategy of tension', then it certainly worked, but as the truth comes out, and as the calls for a proper investigation get louder, if the 9/11 myth falls, it'll take a lot else down with it.
This has nothing to do with 'put-upon Muslims'. I didn't see any such people, just a lot of young men looking for a fight.
As for your comment on the right to bear arms, it's the kind of chicken-necked attitude sadly prevalent amongst my fellow subjects of the Queen. Instead of this, why don't you explain why the woman in the Youtube clip above should have allowed herself to be raped?
Go for it (make my day, punk!)
like those run by Operation Gladio
It was NOT like Gladio in one obvious, significant respect- it was perpetrated in the Homeland.
But let's assume that explosives were planted- oh wait, you already have!
With all these explosives about, what was the point of the planes, I wonder?
Face it: 9/11 truth will die a death sooner or later. It has purchase now because the good ol' US of A has yet to experience another terrorist atrocity.
WHen/if that happens, what then? Another conspiracy theory? and another? and so on.
Trust me, 9/11' Truth' is just another example of an overweening belief in American "Exceptionalism'.
Some yanks simply can't swallow the idea the dirty A-Rabs did them. end of.
And, I'm sorry but Charlie Sheen doesn't make the case more convincing.
Somewhere out there, there is a Democratic DA who would love to destroy the Republican party -for EVER, somehow, if only there was ANY proper evidence...
"With all these explosives about, what was the point of the planes, I wonder?"
What's important is whether the evidence is correct that there were explosives in the buildings.
"WHen/if that happens, what then? Another conspiracy theory? and another? and so on."
Your logic is circular. Of course, if you believe X committed a particular crime, and a similar crime were committed you would naturally consider whether X had done the same thing. Just as you will naturally conclude that Al Quaida did it.
9/11 truth is only going to grow. 90% of Americans believe that they were lied to over JFK. And you know what? They were! That's where all your theorising about 'conspiracy theories' falls over. You take no account of what the truth actually is.
'Democratic DA..'
What touching naivity!
"somehow, if only there was ANY proper evidence..."
Oh, suddenly you care about evidence! Not the evidence that is available, that you treat with contempt. But other evidence, future evidence, that in turn you would reject outright with no consideration.
"And, I'm sorry but Charlie Sheen doesn't make the case more convincing."
Big deal. Believe what you want. You can't or won't debunk the evidence, all you can do is attack those that believe it with tiresome ad hominems about 'conspiracy theories'.
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